Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 25

     
     1        whether, were any problems, anything unsatisfactory about
     2        the way that it was done.
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     4   Q.   It would be unusual for them to stand there the whole time
     5        during the catching process watching?
     6        A.  It would be unusual for them to be there the whole
     7        time, yes.
     8
     9   Q.   It would be unusual for them to be there for any great
    10        length of time?
    11        A.  Well, they are there, as I say, in various stages.  It
    12        will depend on the individual how long they actually spend
    13        with the catchers.
    14
    15   Q.   Loading is usually carried out at night, is it not?
    16        A.  It often is at night, yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Is it usually carried out at night?
    19        A.  Not always.  They are catching -- catching starts in
    20        the afternoon.  It goes on in the evening and through the
         night.
    22
    23   Q.   How many hours do the catchers usually work then?
    24        A.  The catchers work, as I understand it, they normally
    25        work an eight hour shift.
    26
    27   Q.   So would there be two shifts, one starting in the early
    28        afternoon and then another one starting in the early hours
    29        of the morning?
    30        A.  No.  They are organised into teams and the teams are
    31        phased, so that you have people starting at various
    32        intervals throughout the afternoon and evening.
    33
    34   Q.   Do you mean individual people or do you mean individual
    35        teams are phased?
    36        A.  Individual teams are phased to start at different
    37        times.
    38
    39   Q.   What, one hour, two hours, three hours apart?
    40        A.  I would think so, yes.  I do not know the details.
    41
    42   Q.   You do not know which of those or if it was longer than
    43        that?
    44        A.  Well, I think it will vary.  I think it will depend on
    45        the requirements of the particular day, how far they have
    46        to travel.  Those kind of logistical arrangements are down
    47        to the day-to-day management of those teams.
    48
    49   Q.   How often do you observe the catching in the course of a
    50        year? 
    51        A.  I would only go to watch catching occasionally, and 
    52        perhaps two or three times a year. 
    53
    54   Q.   How often would OVSs observe catching in the course of a
    55        year?
    56        A.  I really could not answer that.  You would have to ask
    57        the OVS but he certainly -- he goes out to farms to observe
    58        this from time to time.  But, how frequently, I really
    59        could not say.
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