Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 06
1 (which we are not concerned with) and then of chickens.
2 She disclosed it, I think, in this context, that she was
3 intending to ask Dr. Pattison some questions in
4 cross-examination about that. That being so, not having
5 seen it, we sent a copy down to Dr. Pattison who has now
6 looked at it. He can comment on it without re-showing it
7 again, but your Lordship has not seen it, so it would not
8 make much sense. It is very short; about 10 minutes or
9 quarter of an hour.
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11 I would like to show it to your Lordship and then I will
12 ask Dr. Pattison some questions about it. I would also
13 like to ask him some questions about what Ms. Steel noted
14 as being Mr. John Bruton's allegations. I shall also ask
15 Dr. Pattison some questions about Mr. Bruton himself.
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17 (The video recording was shown)
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19 Dr. Mark Pattison, Recalled
20 Examined by Mr. Rampton, continued.
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22 Q. Dr. Pattison, you do not need to be resworn. Your oath
23 that you took carries over. Did you look at that last
24 week?
25 A. Yes, over the weekend.
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27 Q. Over the weekend. You saw there some film of a gang of
28 catchers, blue overalls and when they took off the top part
29 of the overall they had the words "catch 22" written on
30 their t-shirts. There was also a man in green wellies and
31 a white overall with an illegible logo on it. Are those or
32 are they not Sun Valley chickens that were being shown in
33 that part of that film?
34 A. I do not know. I do not recognise the individuals or
35 the logos on the t-shirts. The catching system being used
36 was the same.
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38 Q. That is the Anglia air flow system?
39 A. The Anglia Auto Flow, yes. But I cannot say whether it
40 was at Sun Valley or not.
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42 Q. One saw in that film the catchers before they started to
43 pick the birds up kicking a number of the birds, yes?
44 A. Yes.
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46 Q. Does that happen at Sun Valley?
47 A. Well, the procedures for catching are quite clearly
48 laid down and the catchers are trained in how to do the
49 job. If they do that or if they are caught doing anything
50 which is mistreating a bird, the quite clear instruction is
51 that the foreman has to bring them back to Head Office for
52 disciplinary proceedings.
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54 Q. One saw those people, some of them at least, one might
55 think, somewhat roughly hurling the birds into the yellow
56 plastic crates, then slamming the drawers shut, sometimes
57 with the birds' or several birds' heads sticking out; is
58 that a typical Sun Valley procedure or not?
59 A. Again, the procedure, the correct procedure, is quite
60 clearly laid down that the birds must be handled in a way