Day 100 - 09 Mar 95 - Page 08


     
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     2   MS. STEEL:   What about other complaints, other than bones?
     3        A.  The most common other complaint would be cartilage
     4        again in chicken products, cartilage or gristle.
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     6   Q.   How many of those are you pretty certain the complaint is
     7        justified?
     8        A.  Yes, I would say that the vast majority of those, we
     9        would say, were definitely justified, yes.
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    11   Q.   That would be true for the bone complaints as well?
    12        A.  Yes, it would.
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    14   Q.   Not does this not crop up with beef products as well and
    15        the pork products?
    16        A.  We get the occasional bone in the beef burgers; the
    17        difference being the beef patties are actually minced so
    18        any bones in there would be ground up and there is an
    19        eliminator, that we discussed yesterday, after the grinding
    20        system which eliminates the vast majority of those bone
    21        chips, but there are a very small percentage that gets
    22        through and do come back by the way of complaints.
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    24   Q.   So the complaints that you get about that type of thing,
    25        you would find they would justified as well?
    26        A.  Yes, we would have no reason to disbelieve them.
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    28   Q.   Then what other types of complaints do you get in relation
    29        to foreign objects?  Plastic bits is a common one, is it
    30        not?
    31        A.  We do not get very much plastic.  We get a lot of
    32        people thinking they have found plastic in fish and, in
    33        fact, it is a fish bone.  They can look very similar.
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    35   Q.   I think Mr. Walker mentioned about investigating a lot of
    36        bits of plastic in the beef products?
    37        A.  With the meat, the only bit of plastic that is in the
    38        system, all the production facility, all the equipment that
    39        is used is stainless steel or metal, so that it gets picked
    40        up by the metal detector, but they do actually tag the
    41        carcasses with plastic meat tags.  Sometimes they can go
    42        through the system undiscovered, yes.
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    44   Q.   Then on top of that you get complaints about things like
    45        hair or?
    46        A.  Yes, we get hair complaints.
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    48   Q.   Worms as well?
    49        A.  It is almost impossible again to tell where they
    50        originate from.  They could be the customers' hair dropping 
    51        in as the customers eats it; they could be from the person 
    52        preparing the food.  We obviously take precautions in the 
    53        production facilities to prevent that with the use of hair
    54        nets and hats.  We use hats in the restaurants as well.
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    56   Q.   Has the company had complaints about chicken cysts?
    57        A.  I have never heard of a complaint about a chicken cyst.
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    59   Q.   Not a single one?
    60        A.  No.

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