Day 093 - 28 Feb 95 - Page 06
1 A. What?
2
3 Q. That as much as a third can be removed?
4 A. No, not in our case. It might be in your case
5 situation, it might be in other plants -- not in our
6 situation. One third is way too much.
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8 Q. How long have you been measuring 1/64th of an inch of a
9 chicken -----
10 A. I have not measured.
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12 Q. You have not measured it?
13 A. No, I was told by Tyson food that is what it is, the
14 common practice.
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16 Q. That is what they told you, is it?
17 A. Yes, and that is what I have seen.
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19 Q. So why was your initial answer yesterday half a centimetre?
20 A. I have told you. You have read what I have said.
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22 Q. You personally have not seen Tyson debeaking their
23 chickens?
24 A. I saw it close to four years ago. They are not doing
25 it. I asked yesterday, they are not doing it any more.
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27 Q. They are not doing it any more?
28 A. No.
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30 Q. Since when?
31 A. I did not ask for that.
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33 Q. When did you get told that?
34 A. Yesterday.
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36 Q. So you phoned up Tyson last night?
37 A. Yes, I did.
38
39 Q. What did you talk about to Tysons?
40 A. I just talked about, there is another -- we are
41 exploring the possibility of Tyson producing products for
42 us in Mexico. As I explained, before I went to Mexico last
43 month, we talk about that business. Then I asked him how
44 much of the beak is trimmed when it is trimmed. He said:
45 "We are not debeaking any more", he said, "but the common
46 practice is 1/64th of an inch".
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48 Q. So it was last night that he told you about 1/64th of an
49 inch?
50 A. That is what I said.
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52 Q. What else did you talk about that was relevant to this
53 case, as opposed to suppliers in Mexico?
54 A. I asked him why not, and he said because the diets are
55 so good nowadays that they do not have any problems with
56 cannibalism.
57
58 Q. So that was something that used to be a problem but they
59 have managed to sort out now?
60 A. No, that is why the word debeak is, to prevent that
