Day 073 - 13 Jan 95 - Page 07


     
     1        absolutely nothing for them to eat, there are no root
     2        bulbs, roots or bulbs for the badgers, there is no forage
     3        for the deer.  There are no small mammals for the foxes;
     4        they trot through it sometimes but they never stop; it is
     5        of no interest to these mammals.
     6
     7   Q.   Can you just elaborate a little bit on the management of
     8        the Devon forests which you are solely responsible for?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   Just describe the nuts and bolts of that in terms of
    12        management relevant to this case; in other words, the
    13        environmental effects of management that you do in that
    14        forest?
    15        A.  Right, well, there are two parts to the woodland.
    16        Though they are continuous, they actually lie next to each
    17        other and have been of the same ownership, as far as
    18        I know, for least 100 years or maybe 150 years.  They do
    19        actually have slightly different characters from their
    20        previous management regime.
    21
    22        One part, which I call "the clift" or is called "the
    23        clift", basically, our management there is to do nothing
    24        because we really want to experiment and build up things
    25        like dead wood, dying trees, see what happens, see how
    26        parts which had been cleared before for -- some was cleared
    27        for growing peas for pheasants; see how that comes back
    28        after a period.
    29
    30        That is the kind of part we are running.  I say "we", this
    31        is myself, my partner and my companion.  That we run purely
    32        for biodiversity, for nature conservation reasons.
    33
    34        In the other part we call the "clift", which I am trying to
    35        run for a commercially viable crop of oak, which I hope I
    36        will have in about a 100 years' time, or my children will
    37        have in a 100 years' time, the management there, we are
    38        trying to do very gently.  We are thinning out the oak.  We
    39        are taking a lot of birch out, which is a natural part of
    40        the woodland.  But we actually have to take the birch out
    41        to let the oak grow on and not have competition, and in
    42        this one we actually -- we are going to be logging by horse
    43        rather than by machine, so we do the least amount of
    44        disturbance to the ground flora and the ground habitat.  It
    45        is actually quite common now -- it is getting common in
    46        this country -- for people who have forests to log by
    47        horse; there is about a 100 people doing the operation in
    48        this country.
    49
    50   Q.   What is the flora like, fauna/flora like in the forest you 
    51        have been managing?  How long have you been managing that 
    52        forest in Devon? 
    53        A.  That is coming up to about a year and three-quarters
    54        now, actually two years.
    55
    56   Q.   When you took it over was it semi-natural?
    57        A.  When I took it over it was semi-natural, yes.
    58
    59   Q.   So what is the flora/fauna like in that?
    60        A.  It is very diverse.  As well as the oak, we have

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