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     1        corrugated is concerned; is that right?
     2        A.  That is correct.
     3
     4   Q.   In the light of that, is it possible for you to make, or in
     5        the light of the material that is contained in this sheet,
     6        is it possible for to you make any sensible estimate of
     7        what the proportion overall might be?
     8        A.  No, I only have an actual figure for the total amount
     9        of recycled.
    10
    11   Q.   I know.  I understand that, and it is from your calculation
    12        of overall recycled percentage against weight that produces
    13        your 71 per cent that we find in CVE 2?
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   Yes, I understand that.  But my question was whether you
    17        could make any sort of a sensible guess or guesstimate, if
    18        you like, about what overall was likely to be the position
    19        within the recycled content as between post-consumer and
    20        post-industrial, or whether it is not possible?
    21        A.  Not at this time.  The only remark I can make is that,
    22        for instance, one of the larger suppliers which happens
    23        here to lie on top Europa Karton ---
    24
    25   Q.   The first batch?
    26        A.  -- the first batch it is one until ---
    27
    28   Q.   Eight?
    29        A.  -- seven.
    30
    31   Q.   One to seven, yes.   What were you going to say about that?
    32        A.  -- is all post-consumer material.  They are a very
    33        important supplier to us.  Polar Cup are a relatively
    34        important supplier but then, for instance, I only have both
    35        PI and PC or in some -----
    36
    37   Q.   They do not break it down, do they?
    38        A.  They do not break it down, in general.  So, it would be
    39        difficult for me to hazard a guess as to what the PC PI
    40        content would be.
    41
    42   Q.   Thank you Mr. Van Erp.  I have one other question about
    43        these documents or arising out of them and your
    44        cross-examination about them.  Mr. Morris noticed that on
    45        page 23 Polar Cup Finland -- one can see clearly that it is
    46        Finland from the bottom of the page left-hand side -- only
    47        put 30 per cent recycled content into -- 23, Mr. Van
    48        Erp  ---
    49        A.  Yes.
    50 
    51   Q.   -- only 30 per cent recycled content into their corrugated 
    52        packaging? 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.   I think you drew attention to the fact that the Spanish
    56        limb of the Polar Cup used 100 per cent; do you remember
    57        that?
    58        A.  Yes.
    59
    60   Q.   You said:  "Well there was only a small amount of recycled

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