Day 025 - 16 Sep 94 - Page 11

     
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     2   Q.   Let us take fat.  We will take your figure.  You say the
     3        US Government's recommended daily proportion or proportion
     4        of energy consumed as fat as 30 per cent; is that right?
     5        A.  I believe it is a recommended daily value, or words to
     6        that effect; 30 per cent calories from fat. Yes, sir.
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     8   Q.   Of which saturated fat should not form more than about a
     9        third?
    10        A.  I believe you are correct.
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    12   Q.   If one wants to avoid endangering one's health one tries
    13        to confine one's intake of fat to around those sorts of
    14        levels, does one not?
    15        A.  One in general, or this one?
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    17   Q.   You, for example, but the world at large, if you like?
    18        A.  The recommended figure is 30 per cent.  That is in the
    19        United States something of an attainment goal.  Americans,
    20        as a whole, eat on average more than 30 per cent calories
         from fat.
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    23   Q.   If you are anxious to remain healthy, yes, one of the
    24        matters to which you will attend is your diet, is it not?
    25        A.  In my case, yes.
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    27   Q.   No, I mean a person should attend to his or her diet if he
    28        or she wishes to remain healthy?
    29        A.  Yes.
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    31   Q.   Not to risk the occurrence of degenerative diseases, for
    32        example?
    33        A.  Diet is, has been shown to be directly linked to one's
    34        health, including the occurrence of degenerative diseases,
    35        so yes.
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    37   Q.   In the same way as one must be careful how much alcohol
    38        one consumes; correct?
    39        A.  Yes.
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    Q.   It is, is it not, Mr. Gardner, a question of moderation
    42        and balance, is it not?
    43        A.  It is what, Mr. Rampton?
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    45   Q.   A healthy diet.
    46        A.  Yes.
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    48   Q.   I am interested to know, Mr. Gardner, what it is that you
    49        mean when you say that McDonald's food as a whole is not
    50        nutritious.  Can you please explain? 
    51        A.  As I have testified, nutritiousness, or nutrition, to 
    52        the average American consumer conveys a sense of a healthy 
    53        product that is not deleterious to one's physical
    54        wellbeing.  Specifically, a product that is nutritious is
    55        one that does not contain excessive amounts of nutrients
    56        that should be avoided, such as fats, sodium and the like.
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    58   Q.   When you say "avoided" do you mean avoided in all
    59        circumstances and for all time?
    60        A.  No, sir.