Day 010 - 11 Jul 94 - Page 29
1 A. OK. Let us see now. We would begin with, it would be
under a headline "Looking beyond CFC".
2
MR. MORRIS: OK. That is on the right column on the first
3 page?
A. The quote: As much as 50 to 60 per cent PS food"----
4
Q. That is the second sentence under that heading "Looking
5 beyond CFC"?
A. Yes: "As much as 50 to 60 per cent of PS food
6 containers are, in fact, foamed with hydrocarbons".
Skipping along to the next paragraph, let me actually
7 continue with that quote: "50 to 60 per cent of
polystyrene food containers are, in fact, foamed with
8 hydrocarbons, processors say; and many of McDonald's
food-packaging suppliers, including Mobil, the largest,
9 use hydrocarbons".
10 Then there is a quote from Ken Koziol for Perseco: "'A
substantial portion of McDonald's containers have been
11 made with isopentane. That is why we are confident there
will be no problem in phasing out CFC-12'". The next
12 paragraph in the middle of it, the statement, the article
continues: "Chief among the cost".
13
Q. Read the first sentence as well.
14 A. I will read the whole paragraph or the relevant
section: "Conversion to hydrocarbons, however, carries
15 with it costs that even the largest processor might find
formidable. Chief among these is the expense of
16 outfitting a plant to safeguard against the materials'
flammability and to contain their vaporous emissions.
17 Processors who convert will need to 'explosion proof'
electrical connections on their machinery, make special
18 provisions for storage of the chemical, and increase the
number of fire safety devices in their plants, users and
19 suppliers of the chemicals say. "
20 It goes on: "Because hydrocarbon emissions are linked with
low level atmospheric pollution, processors must also have
21 recovery systems in place to vent fumes from the air.
Hydrocarbon emissions are also subject to the EPA's clean
22 air standards, thus adding a regulatory dimension to the
chemical's use".
23
Q. Read the last sentence: "In some parts of the US"?
24 A. "In some parts of the US (notably southern California)
there is concern that hydrocarbons could be restricted if
25 EPA prescribed clean air goals for an area are not met".
It is worth noting clean air goals have been coming into
26 effect in various parts of the United States requiring
that these municipal areas come into compliance with clean
27 air standards and because of their smog problems they are
not in compliance. So the point is that these blowing
28 agents, pentane blowing agents, can cause smog.
29 Q. So, in your opinion, is it fair to say that McDonald's
temporary use of CFC-22, HCFC-22, instead of CFCs was the
30 cost implications of moving directly to pentane?