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     1   Q.   What was your focus?
              A.  My primary responsibility was to provide people with
     2        technical research and background information associated
              with scientific or technical and legal matters and the
     3        backgrounds of corporations.
 
     4   Q.   On companies whose business affected the environment?
              A.  Yes, that is right.
     5
         Q.   What was the purpose of the research -- sorry, you might
     6        have said?
              A.  That is the point.  The research was designed to
     7        provide people with information that they could use.  It
              was related to technical, scientific or legal matters
     8        really to corporations or to specific projects or classes
              of projects to allow them to speak and represent
     9        themselves in the public policy decision making process.
 
    10   Q.   Aside from looking at the companies' backgrounds, what
              else were you doing?  Was that involving examining the
    11        types of technology and mode of production?
              A.  Specifically, when you look at a particular issue,
    12        say, for example, the issue of garbage incineration, it is
              necessary to go through a large compilation or compile,
    13        then review, a large collection of documents that are
              generally technical or scientific in orientation in order
    14        to assess the particular technology, the materials that
              are involved in that process, whether it be -- again with
    15        regard to incineration, you need to understand the
              composition of the waste stream.  You need to understand
    16        the types of materials that are used to contain the fire
              and the temperatures that are generally used to burn these
    17        types of materials.  You need to understand the different
              sorts of systems that are designed to remove the fumes
    18        from the presence of the fire through an exhaust system, a
              smoke stack and different types of pollution control
    19        equipment associated with removing particular matters and
              types of chemicals from the exhausts, gases.
    20
              So, in a particular case, when you are doing research on a
    21        particular project, you look at a wide body of scientific
              and technical information on those components, on those
    22        parts of the process.  Then you would also do the same
              kind of research if you were looking at a particular
    23        product that is in the marketplace, whether it be a type
              of package, food package, or what have you, you go through
    24        a large body of information that you need to compile.
 
    25   Q.   Is it right that from October 1987 to November 1990 the
              Citizens Clearing House for Hazardous Waste coordinated a 
    26        nationwide Grassroots campaign against McDonald's? 
              A.  That is correct.  From 1987 to 1990 we ran a campaign 
    27        to get McDonald's to stop using foam food packaging.
 
    28   Q.   That campaign was called the McToxics campaign?
              A.  That is correct.
    29
         Q.   So the campaign was aimed at McDonald's use of foam food
    30        packaging.  What was your role in the campaign?
              A.  Well, specifically we aimed at getting McDonald's to

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