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How about a psychoanalysis?

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on March 08, 1999 at 10:32:12:

In Reply to: A re-analysis is in order posted by Joel Jacobson on March 04, 1999 at 11:19:29:


: No one. I'm being sarcastic, not emotional.

SDF: Others are "emotional". Jacobson is "sarcastic". This according to Jacobson.

: : that our global capitalist system

: Essentialist categorization.

SDF: Of course, one cannot debate Jacobson on this matter, for he has not spelled out what would count as a NON-essentialist categorization, so potentially EVERY category can be accused of "essentialist categorization". However it can be said that the Fortune 500 corporations, the World Bank, the IMF, the OECD, and the WTO all exist as patrons of a global capitalist system, since there are global corporate entitites, global money lines, and global commodity supply lines that exist as physical entities in their own right and which coordinate together as a real physical system.

: : is educating people

: Educating? This implies some particular Will with particular intentions.

SDF: No it doesn't. There are plenty of philosophies of education, not all of them imply a will and intentions. Behaviorism, for example, considers "education" most prominently, without such conceptual baggage.

: I think this was a response to Samuel Day where I was giving a structuralist narrative regarding ancient tribes and he jumped in accusing me of supporting The Holocaust. My language was emotive, and understandably so, as a jump of subject in this proportion simply abrogates any attempt at dialog.

SDF: Well, first of all, Jacobson started threads on Utopia and a parody of Marx's economics, then he throws a fit when I refuse to talk about "ancient tribes" within those threads (as if that were the only permitted subject, as if Marx's economics had ANYTHING AT ALL to do with "ancient tribes"), then (according to him) I am allegedly accusing him of supporting the Holocaust when I most clearly explained my use of the Holocaust as defying Jacobson's rational choice "essentialism" here. Jacobson changes the subject, then goes off into a emotive bicker-fest.

: I was pissed and rightly so. Samuel was simply diverting the conversation into oblivion and implicitly accusing me of being evil.

I'll give you a hint, Jacobson. We're all accusing you of being evil (even though one of us thinks you're merely obnoxious, since you haven't taught him anything), and what's more, we're all out to get you. This is why you've been spending so much time and posting so many posts in obvious debate-school maneuvers to avoid debate embarrassment, and it's why you feel it's so necessary to have the last word in every thread. But maybe somewhere outside this debating room you can find a therapist who isn't out to get you. IMHO we're all woefully inadequate therapists here.



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